L.A. Woman Lyrics to be auctioned off on Tuesday

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I posted a link to those lyrics in another thread.

The poster advertises a show that never actually took place. It's a fake event.
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Link to the other auction thread mentioning the 'L.A. Woman' lyrics: http://www.thefreedomman.com/forum/view ... 9&start=21

It's a fake, btw.
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Yep. I guess they felt that the handwritten lyrics alone weren't valuable enough, and therefore decided to add a signature and some doodles to make it something really "special".

Formally exhibited in the Hard Rock Cafe, New York. Originally purchased by the vendor from Russ Estes who was a friend of Jim's and Manager of the Birds in the 60's this comes with a letter from Russ Estes & The Hard Rock cafe.

I wonder if it sold, and if it was actually displayed at the Hard Rock as claimed in the auction description.

Has anyone ever heard of Russ Estes?
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I didn't know this was in another thread. Sorry. I've been traveling for the last 2 months and haven't been checking out the forum as often as I would like. Thanks. :D
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Jim Morrison's lyrics open The Doors at auction for $20,700

Words penned by the legendary William Blake-inspired singer were a hit at Dreweatts' sale

The lyrics of legendary rocker Jim Morrison, singer of 1960s rock band The Doors, have sold for £13,000 ($20,682) in a Berkshire, UK, auction.


Handwritten in pen, the lyrics were written for the song LA Woman, the title track from the band's sixth and final 1971 studio album (which also happened to feature Elvis Presley's bassist, Jerry Scheff).

Beginning "Well I just got into town about an hour ago..." Morrison's lyrics are accompanied by Biro doodles to the left hand side.

In the top left-hand corner of the A4 sheet is the singer's autograph, which reads "J - M /Doors - Morrison", next to the song title.

Later that same year, in July, Morrison would be found dead in a Paris bathtub. Today, the cause of his death remains uncertain - yet his rock 'n' roll legacy still burns as brightly as ever.

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'Well I just go into town an hour ago...': Morrison's £13,000 lyrics

The authenticity of this fascinating piece of music history was verified by its provenance, having been formally exhibited in the famous Hard Rock Cafe, New York.

Meanwhile, The Doors, whose famous hits include Break on Through (To the Other Side) and Light My Fire, have been enjoyed a renaissance of sorts.

Earlier this year saw the release of a documentary, entitled When You're Strange, charting the band's career with narration by longtime fan Johnny Depp.

Meanwhile, collectors on the lookout for autographs and lyrics penned by rock's greatest legends can also find Paul McCartney's signed lyrics to Lady Madonna and sheet music by Bob Dylan for sale on the market.

They are currently available to collectors alongside other signed photographs and memorabilia from Led Zeppelin, The Who and John Lennon - on which you can find more information here.

http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/s ... docid=4068
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Wow.

Clearly the buyer isn't a member of this forum.

The funny/sad thing is, I doubt anyone involved in that sale knew it was a fake. I guess this means we can believe everything in the Hard Rock Cafe is authentic!

In case anyone's curious, the real "L.A. Woman" lyrics:

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I doubt it too. If the buyer decides to have it authenticated (which they obviously should at that price), it could end up back at the Hard Rock Cafe. I wonder how many times it has changed hands, and what would happen if the Hard Rock Cafe were to then take action.

It indeed doesn't reflect well on the Hard Rock Cafe. Does anyone have pics of any other written or signed Jim items from any of the Hard Rock Cafes? They'd be interesting to see.
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I once saw a jacket on display at a Hard Rock Cafe claimed to be Jim's, but I could never place it. No photo exists (that I've seen at least) that shows Jim wearing that particular jacket. The photo they included in the frame was of Jim at the Winterland and the coat he was wearing was completely different. So even the Hard Rock couldn't locate a photo of Jim wearing it. I wonder how was it authenticated? And I've heard from other fans/collectors that the restaurants have a mix of real stuff and fakes. I don't think it's intentional, just shotty work by the people who acquire items for them.

Here are a couple shots of the brown leather pants they have on display (notice the orange paint -- possibly from Miami?):

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My favorite is the plaque that goes with them:

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Quick, update your concert lists! There was a show at the Hollywood Bowl on July 6th as well according to the Hard Rock Cafe!

If these are indeed the same pants Jim wore in Miami (and I believe they are), then I think that makes them much more historically interesting than the Hollywood Bowl connection. I'm guessing they never looked into this possibility.
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Thanks for the pics! That definitely makes up for the "L.A. Woman" lyrics. The plaque is hilarious!
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Oh, boy, the doodles.. :lol:
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I was just looking at the Hard Rock website, which pictures a lot of their memorabilia. Interestingly, they show the second and third pages of the authentic handwritten "L.A. Woman" lyrics. It seems odd that they apparently had at least a full set of the lyrics on display (possibly at different locations), but didn't realize that one of the pages is a fake.

http://memorabilia.hardrock.com/?item=093346
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Thanks for the pics Len, the first is a great one. I never thought this brown one still looks this good. I wonder what's that red paint over there? When the paint was thrown at the stage in Miami?
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Thank you
for those pics

Were those some of the pants made by January J.?

They look still formed somehow
it's the space between the notes that make the music
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January Jansen Pants in all its glory! :lol:

I think the shapes are definetly intentional made by pillows or what they call it ;) inside the trouser.
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Jim mentions in the Miami trial transcript that someone threw red/orange paint on them and he had to trash them. I think these are those pants. Compare the folds and creases in this photo from Miami:

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Plus I'm only aware of Jim having one pair of brown leather pants. He certainly never wore brown leathers after Miami, whereas he wore black ones at least a few times more. These are probably the same pants that he wore at the Singer Bowl as well. Maybe we should call them the riot pants?
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I thought maybe they were stiff from not washing or cleaning them.
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it's the space between the notes that make the music
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Here's a recent entry on autographnews.net regarding the auction house that sold the "L.A. Woman" lyrics:

Cameo Auctioneers [At it again]
Posted on October 19, 2011 by admin

http://autographnews.net/109/cameo-auct ... -at-again/
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The lyric sheet is back on the market...

http://www.rareandsigned.com/?page=shop ... 7ea14e198d

On offer here is a truly once in a lifetime opportunity to own the original hand written studio lyrics for L.A. Woman from Jim Morrison. These handwritten lyrics on offer here are the original studio written lyrics by Jim Morrison. These were previously on loan and displayed for all to view at the original Hard Rock Café in New York. These rare original handwritten Jim Morrison Doors lyrics are now available to buy.

These are Jim Morrison's original handwritten lyrics to his 1970 composition L.A. Woman. Comprising of one yellow sheet of lined A4 paper with the lyrics of L.A. Woman written by Jim Morrison in pen. These Jim Morrison hand written lyrics were initially given to long time friend and associate, Russ Estees by Jim Morrison at the time of the actual Doors studio recording of LA woman in 1970. Russ Estees at the time was working for Screen Gems and also managed The Byrds (the US band) and Blue Cheer.

This set of lyrics for The Doors’ mega-iconic “L.A. Woman” is written in Jim Morrison’s own hand and were the original reference lyric for the recording of the song. Less than four months after this song was released in April of 1971, Jim Morrison had died. Handwritten lyrics from rock’s golden age are incredibly personal and affecting pieces of memorabilia – and this is one of our best examples.

These lyrics are accompanied by several important pieces of paperwork and letters dating this back to their conception and handover from Jim Morrison himself.

These lyrics were given on the day of the recording to the manager of The Byrds and Blue Cheer, Russ Estees. Included with the lyrics is a copy of a letter from Russ Estees detailing this event on his Crystal Sky Productions letter headed paper and dated 5/93, detailing the events.

These original handwritten lyrics to The Doors L.A.Woman do not contain the words “Mr Mojo Risin” because this sheet was the very first incarnation of the track in the studio from December 1970. In the beginning, that part of the song had not even been discovered. It was only in 1971 when John Densmore later got the band to slow the track right down in the middle eight and they needed a chant or hook to link it up. It was only then at this point when Jim came up with anagram of his name to use across the track.

One other important variation of these lyrics has appeared in The Doors scrapbook. Those lyrics were actually requested specifically by Danny Sugarman from Jim, after the recording of L.A. Woman. Those hand written Jim Morrison manuscripts were originally sold to two Los Angeles dealers by Danny Sugarman. Among the manuscripts they also acquired were Crawling King Snake (A composition by John Lee Hooker written in Jim Morrison's hand), Been Down So Long, L'America, L.A. Woman and several others from what would become Jim Morrison's final album, The Doors, L.A. Woman. Those manuscripts originally sold for approx $3,000 each and were distributed among a variety of dealers, who resold them to collectors. It is well known those lyrics were all written after the actual recordings of the songs unlike the single sheet that is on offer here, obtained from the actual event.

"L.A. Woman" is a landmark song by The Doors. The song is the title track on their 1971 album L.A. Woman, the final album with front man Jim Morrison before his death. In the song's final recorded version Morrison repeats the phrase "Mr. Mojo Risin'," which is an anagram of "Jim Morrison". The song was recorded at The Doors Workshop on Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood, Los Angeles, between December 1970 and January 1971. Morrison recorded his vocal part in the bathroom of the makeshift studio due to the room's natural reverb.

Because of its length (7:49 on the original album) and difficult vocal chord progressions, "L.A. Woman" is considered extremely challenging to sing live. The Doors only performed the song live in its entirety once, at their penultimate concert in Dallas. Faithfully replicating Morrison's performance requires singing at top volume and full voice for the entire song as even the coda is sung at full force. Alcohol abuse and smoking had taken a severe toll on Morrison's voice and the resultant rasp, which gives the song a distinct colour, is difficult (and very painful) to duplicate.

This set of lyrics for the Doors’ mega-iconic “L.A. Woman” is in Jim Morrison’s own hand.

An original yellow sheet of lined A4 paper bearing lyrics handwritten by Jim Morrison, legendary singer of 1960s rock band The Doors. These original handwritten lyrics are for the song LA Woman, the title track from the band's sixth and final 1971 studio album -which also happened to feature Elvis Presley's bassist, Jerry Scheff. In July of that same year, Morrison was found dead in a Paris bathtub. Today, the cause of his death remains uncertain - yet his rock 'n' roll legacy still burns as brightly as ever.

Beginning "Well I just go into town about an hour ago..." Jim Morrison's lyrics are written in blue pen, with Biro doodles to the left hand side.

To the top of the A4 sheet the singer has written “J.M./Doors - L.A. Woman” and autographed the sheet to the top right corner next to the song title.

The Doors, whose famous hits include Break on Through (To the Other Side) and Light My Fire, first formed in 1965, and are the latest legendary group to enjoy a 21st century renaissance. 2011 saw the documentary release of “When You're Strange”, charting the band's career with narration by long-time Doors fan Johnny Depp.

Jim Morrison famously regarded himself as a writer and poet as much as a singer (William Blake was a key influence) and this undoubtedly makes his lyrics even more sought-after among investors and collectors.

Without question one of the single most important set of lyrics ever made available on the open market for the ultimate rock n roll collection.

The authenticity of this fascinating piece of music history is verified by its undeniable provenance, having also been formally exhibited in the famous Hard Rock Cafe, New York. The lyrics are accompanied by a copy of the letter from the original owner Russ Estees, a letter from the Hard Rock Café, NY returning the lyrics after their load. There are two further independent letters of authentication including full forensic analysis of the letter. The whole collection is also accompanied by full rareandsigned certification valuing this package at £175,000 in February 2012.


Price = 175000.00 GBP (about $275,000)

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THEY MUST BE JOKING . REALLY .

and IF again IF this was an original sheet its for sale for twice the price as the whole last notebook that Jim wrote in Paris (went for 120k$ iirc )

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i wouldnt give even 2 cents for it . in fact i may contact them to make my offer of 0.02$
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