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From my understanding the children were there when it happened. People have heard screaming, including children screaming. From what I have heard they were at the appertment when their mom got murdered yes.

Fortunately I think the two year old at least will not remember. Hopefully they end up in a loving home now.

jim4371 wrote:Fortunately I think the two year old at least will not remember. Hopefully they end up in a loving home now.

I hope so to Chris.

I read that the father took the kids to family in Amsterdam before he turned himself in. Maybe he did have the sense to make sure they did not see anything too. Hopefully that is.

jim4371 wrote:I read that the father took the kids to family in Amsterdam before he turned himself in. Maybe he did have the sense to make sure they did not see anything too. Hopefully that is.

Yes after the murder he took his kids to family in Amsterdam. Then the family got worried and drove to Soest. They could not open the door so they broke a big window and then found the dead body of the mother.

From what I can hear from some of the soundclips. Alcohol/drugs was involved. But no one has a real idea of why this happened.
Poor woman just 29 years old. and those kids. I hope they did not see it but they must have heard the screams of their mom. A lot of people outside the appertment heard the screams so I guess the kids did for sure.

I was afraid of that. With 2 and 4 years it's hard to know if they will remember anything. Human mind is a mistery, even if they don't conscientiously remember anything there's probably something that will influentiate their behaviour. Psychiatrists will have to do some work but of course they will grow up knowing something happened. Hopefully as Chris said they will find some loving home.

If any one hears of a fund started for the kids
would you post the info?. I would like to help
thanks

I have the local news paper here with me now. There are some photo's in it from the police investigation.
All they say about the kids is that they confirm that they were in the appartment when their dad murdered their mother.
That they are in good physical health. And are now with family in Amsterdam.

Even if they didn't see it they must have heard it. People heard the screaming from far.

Thank you for your offer Twilla to help out. That is very sweet of you. *hugs*. I will let you know if something will be done for the children.
All I know that flowers are put right in front the appertment where it all happened.

I'll see if I can go there tomorrow and put some flowers there. But I am not going to take photo's though. I just can't do that. That would be like being a spectical tourist.

MistyJm wrote:I have the local news paper here with me now. There are some photo's in it from the police investigation.
All they say about the kids is that they confirm that they were in the appartment when their dad murdered their mother.
That they are in good physical health. And are now with family in Amsterdam.

Even if they didn't see it they must have heard it. People heard the screaming from far.

Thank you for your offer Twilla to help out. That is very sweet of you. *hugs*. I will let you know if something will be done for the children.
All I know that flowers are put right in front the appertment where it all happened.

I'll see if I can go there tomorrow and put some flowers there. But I am not going to take photo's though. I just can't do that. That would be like being a spectical tourist.

thanks mon
that is just awful
That would be sweet of you to place flowers there
I don't know if you have Yarrow there or can get it ,but it is the flower of Healing and sorrow
Geranium can mean comfort
Purple Hyacinth can mean I am sorry, sorrow
Jonquil Sympathy
Oak leaves for bravery
Pansies rememberance
Dark red rose mourning
Of course anything you send will be great of you

twilla wrote:

MistyJm wrote:I have the local news paper here with me now. There are some photo's in it from the police investigation.
All they say about the kids is that they confirm that they were in the appartment when their dad murdered their mother.
That they are in good physical health. And are now with family in Amsterdam.

Even if they didn't see it they must have heard it. People heard the screaming from far.

Thank you for your offer Twilla to help out. That is very sweet of you. *hugs*. I will let you know if something will be done for the children.
All I know that flowers are put right in front the appertment where it all happened.

I'll see if I can go there tomorrow and put some flowers there. But I am not going to take photo's though. I just can't do that. That would be like being a spectical tourist.

thanks mon
that is just awful
That would be sweet of you to place flowers there
I don't know if you have Yarrow there or can get it ,but it is the flower of Healing and sorrow
Geranium can mean comfort
Purple Hyacinth can mean I am sorry, sorrow
Jonquil Sympathy
Oak leaves for bravery
Pansies rememberance
Dark red rose mourning
Of course anything you send will be great of you

That is beautiful. I had no idea the meaning of the flowers like you put it there.
I only regonize the Hyacinth and rose in English.
I will google them and translate so I know what the others are.

Thanks love, for trying to help.

Edit,

I think I will bring dark red roses. That fits the situation the best I think.
Dark red roses, almost like bleeding.

Those were my grandmother's favorite flower
Dark Burgundy Red roses
she is gone now (died at 96), but I still miss her

twilla wrote:Those were my grandmother's favorite flower
Dark Burgundy Red roses
she is gone now (died at 96), but I still miss her

Sorry to hear about your grandma Twilla. No matter how old or young someone is when they die. When loved they'll be missed always.
So when you see the roses you think of her? That is beautiful.

MistyJm wrote:

twilla wrote:Those were my grandmother's favorite flower
Dark Burgundy Red roses
she is gone now (died at 96), but I still miss her

Sorry to hear about your grandma Twilla. No matter how old or young someone is when they die. When loved they'll be missed always.
So when you see the roses you think of her? That is beautiful.

Yes
I like to know special people in my life's favorite flower so that if something good or bad happens and I feel the need to give flowers I know what they like.
My dad's fav is the gladiola, my Mom's Iris, My sister Gerber Daisy

twilla wrote:

MistyJm wrote:

twilla wrote:Those were my grandmother's favorite flower
Dark Burgundy Red roses
she is gone now (died at 96), but I still miss her

Sorry to hear about your grandma Twilla. No matter how old or young someone is when they die. When loved they'll be missed always.
So when you see the roses you think of her? That is beautiful.

Yes
I like to know special people in my life's favorite flower so that if something good or bad happens and I feel the need to give flowers I know what they like.
My dad's fav is the gladiola, my Mom's Iris, My sister Gerber Daisy

That is beautiful. Also a very touching way to remember someone you love by, or to show support.

Thanks
I think it is a good idea anyway

Saying hi to everyone from Rae ( violentblossom). Girl is ok, and will be back later when she is ready.

MistyJm wrote:Saying hi to everyone from Rae ( violentblossom). Girl is ok, and will be back later when she is ready.

Was wondering where Blossom was lately...thanks for letting us know.

jamestkirk wrote:

MistyJm wrote:Saying hi to everyone from Rae ( violentblossom). Girl is ok, and will be back later when she is ready.

Was wondering where Blossom was lately...thanks for letting us know.

Yw Scott. I am glad she is ok too. I missed her.
Time for some good vibrations to come back.

MistyJm wrote:Saying hi to everyone from Rae ( violentblossom). Girl is ok, and will be back later when she is ready.

Oh thanks Mon! That's great. I noticed her absence too. I agree, she seems nice. We can always use some extra good vibes

Eni wrote:

MistyJm wrote:Saying hi to everyone from Rae ( violentblossom). Girl is ok, and will be back later when she is ready.

Oh thanks Mon! That's great. I noticed her absence too. I agree, she seems nice. We can always use some extra good vibes

Yw Eni Yeah Bloss is a great girl. Really missed her.
She's ok. She called me Moni so she is ok.
She'll be back with us.

MistyJm wrote:
Yw Eni Yeah Bloss is a great girl. Really missed her.
She's ok. She called me Moni so she is ok.
She'll be back with us.

Well thats great

I am starting college tomorrow btw, I am excited but also a bit nervous. I know that people on here have already wished me luck. Thanks a lot. I will still have time to be on here too!

Eni wrote:

MistyJm wrote:
Yw Eni Yeah Bloss is a great girl. Really missed her.
She's ok. She called me Moni so she is ok.
She'll be back with us.

Well thats great

I am starting college tomorrow btw, I am excited but also a bit nervous. I know that people on here have already wished me luck. Thanks a lot. I will still have time to be on here too!

Enjoy yourself, eni. Have the time of your life!

Eni wrote:

MistyJm wrote:
Yw Eni Yeah Bloss is a great girl. Really missed her.
She's ok. She called me Moni so she is ok.
She'll be back with us.

Well thats great

I am starting college tomorrow btw, I am excited but also a bit nervous. I know that people on here have already wished me luck. Thanks a lot. I will still have time to be on here too!

Have a great wonderful time at college Eni. I hope it will be a special interesting and beautiful time in your life. Enjoy much.

Thanks so much you two (btw, JTK: nice cat in your avatar )

Enjoy it - college is magical

Eni wrote:Thanks so much you two (btw, JTK: nice cat in your avatar )

Kitty got under the covers, popped her head out and
went to sleep.
A funny cat, and very photogenic! Thanks, eni.

DJ I saw it is your birthday today. Have a great special day. Enjoy.

oooooh ya...

Happy B-day DJ!!

Thanks!

congratulations blossum
good luck eni
happy birthday DJ
Hope you all are having good days