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I got the FF magnet, AND t shirt. The shirt sucks though, because I don't like the particular cut of american apparel shirt they used.jim4371 wrote:Did anyone get the magnet?
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Additional differentiators: Love Me Two Times (rarely recorded in concert) and a 17+ minute Light My Fire with embedded versions of "Summertime," "Fever" and "St. James Infirmary." Now we can hear this medley sober -- unlike the Boston April 70 version.BallroomDays67 wrote:While it does have additional dialogue and the phasing problems have been corrected, "Live in Vancouver 1970" sounds slightly dull and muffled in comparison to "100 Minutes." IMO, it isn't the clear winner here. As far as the music is concerned, the tracks with Albert King are what differentiate it from other 1970-era releases. Otherwise it's about average, and a step backward performance-wise from the previous release (Felt Forum). I still think they should have waited with this one.
Since this is a show I particularly enjoy, I wonder if a professional job (I'm not saying more dedicated since the sound improvements made by the members of this forum over the last years have been really great) done with sophisticated equipment and software can brings us a better sound. I don't know if the permanently deferred official downloads will include some important audience recorded shows (Hawaii, Long Beach, Dallas, etc) but if so, I'm curious to know if they can do much better. We all know what was done in Boot Yer Butt but perhaps in the future they will be more careful.mystery_train67 wrote:...
I've been listening to your dallas 70 too. Im undecided as to which source i prefer, but yours definitely has more top end... problem is, every source we have either has some bad ass noise reduction on it, or it was recorded with noise reduction, or under a blanket or something..... its like no matter what you do, you'll never be able to hear those cymbals of johns cos the higher frequencies just arent there to be brought out.
Sounds like the speed/pitch corrected version at that.coltturkey01 wrote:The Bakersfied Version can be heared here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipUEBsXD2A0
L.A. Forum version is excellent (the whole show is awesome). About those '70 audience recordings, I would like to hear Honolulu '70 remastered without those terrible bass distortions and Long Beach '70 would be great too. Dallas '70 could be made a little bit better, but that master clone we already have is great also (those cymbals don't really exist on the recording, as the frequency spectrum goes to just 4 KHz).BallroomDays67 wrote:"Love Me Two Times" is inferior to the two killer versions from the Stockholm shows. We also have L.A. Forum, Roundhouse, Asbury Park, and a humorous version from Miami.
Did Botnick record the Honolulu show on a cassette or something? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I read some thing to that effect.Lost Prophet wrote:L.A. Forum version is excellent (the whole show is awesome). About those '70 audience recordings, I would like to hear Honolulu '70 remastered without those terrible bass distortions and Long Beach '70 would be great too. Dallas '70 could be made a little bit better, but that master clone we already have is great also (those cymbals don't really exist on the recording, as the frequency spectrum goes to just 4 KHz).BallroomDays67 wrote:"Love Me Two Times" is inferior to the two killer versions from the Stockholm shows. We also have L.A. Forum, Roundhouse, Asbury Park, and a humorous version from Miami.
Yes, it seems that Bruce Botnick recorded Honolulu '70 for personal purposes. But, it seems also that the master is lost, and all we have is the DCM version which is the Nth gen tape (with those very loud bass distortions, highly noticeable in the versions of "Peace Frog" and "The End") and the 3rd generation tape (which I haven't heard myself but I will one day when it gets put in wider circulation). That 3rd gen is way better than DCM version (so I've heard) with much less distortions but it has two or three cuts on it (during "Mystery Train" and "The End"), but that can be filled with the DCM source, so we can have a complete recording of this concert. Info about 3rd gen. version I got from Len and very much appreciate that.BallroomDays67 wrote:
Did Botnick record the Honolulu show on a cassette or something? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I read some thing to that effect.
Who knows? Maybe Bruce has spread this story not to be pressed. I wouldn't be very surprised if the official downloads will come to include a surprise involving Honolulu '70.Lost Prophet wrote:Yes, it seems that Bruce Botnick recorded Honolulu '70 for personal purposes. But, it seems also that the master is lost, and all we have is the DCM version which is the Nth gen tape (with those very loud bass distortions, highly noticeable in the versions of "Peace Frog" and "The End") and the 3rd generation tape (which I haven't heard myself but I will one day when it gets put in wider circulation). That 3rd gen is way better than DCM version (so I've heard) with much less distortions but it has two or three cuts on it (during "Mystery Train" and "The End"), but that can be filled with the DCM source, so we can have a complete recording of this concert. Info about 3rd gen. version I got from Len and very much appreciate that.BallroomDays67 wrote:
Did Botnick record the Honolulu show on a cassette or something? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I read some thing to that effect.
i'd like to know what the 3rd source for this concert is.... perhaps a SB or two track... for a while, Greg was convinced there was a SB of this show.dj_vera wrote:There's two different AUD sources for Long Beach. The source with the complete LMTT is the one that Bruno just uploaded.BallroomDays67 wrote:My copy of LMTT from Long Beach is about 4 seconds long. Was it recorded in full?
I did a job on the DCM version which includes bass reduction and high frequencies improved, I also made some repairs on the different cuts.Lost Prophet wrote:Yes, it seems that Bruce Botnick recorded Honolulu '70 for personal purposes. But, it seems also that the master is lost, and all we have is the DCM version which is the Nth gen tape (with those very loud bass distortions, highly noticeable in the versions of "Peace Frog" and "The End") and the 3rd generation tape (which I haven't heard myself but I will one day when it gets put in wider circulation). That 3rd gen is way better than DCM version (so I've heard) with much less distortions but it has two or three cuts on it (during "Mystery Train" and "The End"), but that can be filled with the DCM source, so we can have a complete recording of this concert. Info about 3rd gen. version I got from Len and very much appreciate that.
You are right, it has quite the same pitch correction than my job but not the same duration, it seems to be a pitch correction with preserving duration.dj_vera wrote:Sounds like the speed/pitch corrected version at that.coltturkey01 wrote:The Bakersfied Version can be heared here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipUEBsXD2A0
That's cool, but 'The End' and 'Peace Frog' are just too distorted on the DCM version. On 'The End', when Jim screams, that's when it's too much distorted. Anyway, I would like to hear your improvement and that's great.Liberty Man wrote: I did a job on the DCM version which includes bass reduction and high frequencies improved, I also made some repairs on the different cuts.
I'll reupload it in a few days in the Downloads section, if you are interested.