Post-Morrison Albums Official Release Downloads?

Post by **anytimecowboy** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:21 pm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Other-Voices/dp ... 867&sr=8-4

http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download- ... fer=search

Post by **anytimecowboy** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:23 pm

Why would these be on general release on amazon etc but not throught the doors.com?

Post by **Porsche** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:10 pm

The sound quality is a lot better than the CD bootlegs I've heard sourced from either an LP or tape/reel. I'd guess these are indeed official releases of some kind. Too bad they're mp3s and there's no "Treetrunk"!

Amazon (US) Links:

http://www.amazon.com/Other-Voices/dp/B005NYKMN8
http://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle/dp/B005O6THSQ

Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:37 pm

Has Botnick or Jampol made any statement regarding these mp3s?

Post by **The Royal Sperm** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:41 am

i would like to see a cd release of them

Post by **JuanTCB** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:24 pm

Both albums are up on Spotify, too.

They sound pretty amazing - I'd say from tapes, not a needledrop.

Post by **The Royal Sperm** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:32 pm

they finally found them?

does anybody asked this to jeffrey? or published the links on the LL?

Post by AK » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:07 pm

Whoa.

This is interesting. Nice sound and they're not all sped up like the bootleg that everyone has. Would love these on CDs, but I'll take the downloads for now.

edit: a 3 disc set with the two albums (with singles and b sides) and a barebones dvd of the beat club performance would probably be too much to ask for, wouldn't it? Toss it in some small digipack and charge $25 for it. It would be a nice way to get 3 things out under the cover of 1 release and they really wouldn't have to do another post-jim release ever.

Post by **midnightx** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:02 pm

AK wrote: edit: a 3 disc set with the two albums (with singles and b sides) and a barebones dvd of the beat club performance would probably be too much to ask for, wouldn't it? Toss it in some small digipack and charge $25 for it. It would be a nice way to get 3 things out under the cover of 1 release and they really wouldn't have to do another post-jim release ever.

If Warner is having difficulty justifying an expansive LA Woman set, it is unlikely deluxe treatment will be given to the post-Morrison albums.

Post by **The Royal Sperm** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:50 pm

where i can download them?

Post by **MajorMojo** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:37 pm

JuanTCB wrote:Both albums are up on Spotify, too.

They sound pretty amazing - I'd say from tapes, not a needledrop.

Weren't they from one of the other musicians"bass player" have a backup copy of the albums? The Doors "lost" their stereo masters and mulititracks apparently.

Post by **TheDoorsMusic** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:37 am

I posted here once a rip from a fresh un-played (I opened it as it was still sealed) first pressing LP of Other Voices. I thought it sounded pretty good. Anyone take advantage of that download?

Post by **The Royal Sperm** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:24 pm

i would like to listen that, anybody archived it?

Post by **MysticHeatedWine** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:59 pm

I just bought both albums and downloaded all the tracks to my ITunes. They sound great !! Definitely better than other sources. I had seen these awhile ago and was going to buy them and then forgot. I must admit I'm curious as to how Amazon can sell them if they're not official releases. Anyway I'm going to keep them in my ITunes and put them on cds as well.

Post by **Porsche** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:29 pm

MysticHeatedWine wrote:I must admit I'm curious as to how Amazon can sell them if they're not official releases.

They are official releases.

Post by **TheDoorsMusic** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:07 pm

Here's Other Voices (again) from a mint unplayed first pressing LP I bought in Hollywood 8-9 years ago.
Both sides are one continuous track with no breaks between the songs.

http://thedoorsmusic.net/OVside1

http://thedoorsmusic.net/OVside2

Post by **The Royal Sperm** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:29 pm

Thanks Dan! i'll DL later!

btw, i'm not interested in the analogue sets, i just want to joke in the LL

Post by **TheDoorsMusic** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:37 pm

The Royal Sperm wrote:Thanks Dan! i'll DL later!

btw, i'm not interested in the analogue sets, i just want to joke in the LL

Ok man.

BTW, I see those are now available for pre-order. I'm thinking of buying a few of the LP's.
Each LP is 2 discs at 45 RPM and 200 gram Vinyl.

Post by **The Royal Sperm** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:44 pm

TheDoorsMusic wrote:
The Royal Sperm wrote:Thanks Dan! i'll DL later!

btw, i'm not interested in the analogue sets, i just want to joke in the LL
Ok man.

BTW, I see those are now available for pre-order. I'm thinking of buying a few of the LP's.
Each LP is 2 discs at 45 RPM and 200 gram Vinyl.

i can take that analogue sets instead the 5CD l.a.woman box! it's always refreshing listen the same releases in different formats

Post by **jamestkirk** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:23 am

TheDoorsMusic wrote:Here's Other Voices (again) from a mint unplayed first pressing LP I bought in Hollywood 8-9 years ago.
Both sides are one continuous track with no breaks between the songs.

http://thedoorsmusic.net/OVside1

http://thedoorsmusic.net/OVside2

Thanks, Dan.

Analog RULES!!

We love our vinyl, don't we.

Post by **TheDoorsMusic** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:37 am

Yes we do! Vinyl all the way.

Post by **Porsche** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:17 am

Thanks for sharing, Dan. Looking forward to hearing this. But there are no file tags on the end of these. Are they .zip files?

Edit: Figured it out. They're FLAC files. Thanks again! Sounds really nice.

Post by **avp2029** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:07 am

The Royal Sperm wrote:they finally found them?

does anybody asked this to jeffrey? or published the links on the LL?

I made a thread about it on LL several weeks ago, including asking Jeff about the sources, but unsurprisingly I have not gotten a response.

Post by **Porsche** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:12 am

I asked Bruce Botnick about the source of the iTunes release and he confirmed they still have the masters: "As far as OV or FC, I co-produced Other Voices with Robby, Ray and John. We have the masters for both albums in our vault. Rhino/Elektra/WMG has analogue copies and prepared the digital masters that are now on iTunes."

So it seems The Doors still have the masters, but for some reason, a vinyl transfer was used for "Tightrope Ride" on the 1997 box set. I think Jampol is the one who said the masters were missing at one point. Maybe they only recently rediscovered them?

Post by **MajorMojo** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:09 am

Porsche wrote:I asked Bruce Botnick about the source of the iTunes release and he confirmed they still have the masters: "As far as OV or FC, I co-produced Other Voices with Robby, Ray and John. We have the masters for both albums in our vault. Rhino/Elektra/WMG has analogue copies and prepared the digital masters that are now on iTunes."

So it seems The Doors still have the masters, but for some reason, a vinyl transfer was used for "Tightrope Ride" on the 1997 box set. I think Jampol is the one who said the masters were missing at one point. Maybe they only recently rediscovered them?

I thought it was the multitracks that were missing.

Post by **dj_vera** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:19 pm

I haven't streamed the official sources all the way through, but I noticed that on Get Up and Dance and some other song from FC that there are some digital anomalies present.

Post by **DalloLama** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:09 am

I noticed that Venetta Fields sang backing vocals on Full Circle. She is pretty well known here in Australia, she moved here from the US in the early 80s I think, anyway I emailed her about working with the Doors and she said she can't remember a thing. Great, lol.

Post by **midnightx** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:56 am

DalloLama wrote:I noticed that Venetta Fields sang backing vocals on Full Circle. She is pretty well known here in Australia, she moved here from the US in the early 80s I think, anyway I emailed her about working with the Doors and she said she can't remember a thing. Great, lol.

I would imagine anyone associated with Full Circle would have wanted to forget the details as soon as humanly possible.

Post by **hardrockcafe** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:12 am

Porsche wrote:I asked Bruce Botnick about the source of the iTunes release and he confirmed they still have the masters: "As far as OV or FC, I co-produced Other Voices with Robby, Ray and John. We have the masters for both albums in our vault. Rhino/Elektra/WMG has analogue copies and prepared the digital masters that are now on iTunes."

The Botnick oracle speaks! But seriously though, if we parse Botnick's language, is he in fact saying that the iTunes versions are sourced from analog copies and that the original masters in the Doors vault were not used to prepare the iTunes sources? Thus the iTunes is not from the master tapes, which do exist? WTF?

Post by **Porsche** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:38 am

I took Botnick's comments to mean they still have the multis and that the label used an (older?) analog mixdown for the digital release rather than working with Botnick and going directly to the masters. Might explain why Jeff has been mum on the subject. Maybe they did it without The Doors' full approval? (Not sure how those things work between the band and the label.) The iTunes release still sounds better than previous versions. I noticed a little flutter during "Get Up And Dance." I wonder if that's due to damage on the analog copy? Also noticed the Russian release has the left/right channels swapped.

Edit: I think I can actually hear the same flutter on the Russian release. It's just not as pronounced as on the iTunes version which probably comes from a superior transfer of the same analog mixdown used for the vinyl albums.