More on BABY HUEY...Heavy Psychedelic Soul 1970!

Discussions of other bands, including D21C/ROTS should go here.

Moderators: The Freedom Man, TheDoorsMusic

Post Reply
User avatar
jamestkirk
Senior Member
Posts: 5816
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:11 pm
Location: The Music Of My Mind

More on BABY HUEY...Heavy Psychedelic Soul 1970!

Post by jamestkirk »

Baby Huey

James Ramey (August 17, 1944 – October 28, 1970), better known as Baby Huey, was an American rock and soul singer. He was the frontman for the band Baby Huey & The Babysitters, whose single LP for Curtom Records in 1971 was influential in the development of hip hop music.

listen and LEARN!! This is absolutely amazing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMIzTh0L ... ure=fvwrel


Image



A native of Richmond, Indiana, James Ramey moved to Chicago, Illinois at the age of nineteen, and worked with several local bands as a singer. One while he was still in high school was called the Vets. Due to a glandular disorder, Ramey was a large man, weighing about 350 pounds (160 kg).[2] His size contributed to his stage presence, but also to health problems. Nevertheless, he made light of his condition, adopting the stage name "Baby Huey" after Paramount Pictures' giant duckling cartoon character of the same name. In 1963, Ramey, organist/trumpeter Melvyn "Deacon" Jones, and guitarist Johnny Ross founded a band called Baby Huey & the Babysitters, which became a popular local act and released several 45 RPM singles. The four songs, "Beg Me", "Monkey Man", "Messin' with the Kid" and "Just Being Careful" were spread over various single releases.

During the late-1960s, the band followed the lead of Sly & the Family Stone and became a psychedelic soul act. Huey began wearing an Afro and donned psychedelic African-inspired robes, and adding sing-song, self-referential rhymes to his live performances. According to his bandmates, Ramey's rhymes were very similar in style to those later popularized by rappers in hip-hop music. The Babysitters were a popular live act, but never took the time out to record an album.

In 1969, the band's agent Marv Heiman secured them an audition with Curtom Records arranger Donny Hathaway. Heiman states that Hathaway came by the Thumbs Up club and was very impressed by the act, and got Curtom Records head Curtis Mayfield to come the following night.[3] Mayfield wanted to sign Baby Huey, but not the band. Although the band participated in the recording of Ramey's debut album, there were feelings of unease among them, and Jones quit the band during the recording. It's also likely that Ross had quit some time before.

By 1970, Ramey had developed an addiction to heroin, and his weight had increased to over 400 pounds. He began regularly missing gigs or turning up late, and, at the insistence of his bandmates, briefly entered rehabilitation in the spring of 1970. In addition to the heroin problem, Ramey was also drinking. Melvyn Jones had described in his book an incident that took place: while pouring his breakfast cereal, Ramey's drug kit fell out of the box.[4]

On October 28, 1970, James Ramey died of a drug-related heart attack at the age of 26 in a Chicago motel room.[2][5] His funeral was held on November 1, in his native Richmond, Indiana and he was buried there in Glen Havens Memorial Gardens.


Baby Huey's album, The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend, was released posthumously. Produced by Curtis Mayfield, the album featured several Mayfield compositions, as well as a cover of Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna Come" and two original compositions by Ramey. The album did not sell well upon its original release, and was largely forgotten by the mainstream. Today, the album is considered a classic of its period.

On October 7, 1971, Jet magazine ran a small piece on how his mother, Mrs. Ernestine Ramey Saine, was granted authorization to audit the records of two recording firms including Curtom Records. The order also permitted her to evaluate an undetermined estate left by him. According to Chicago attorney Vernon M. Rhinehart, Ramey had a salary that was $3,500 per week.[6]

Several songs from The Baby Huey Story, including "Hard Times", "Listen to Me", and "Mighty Mighty Children", have been frequently sampled by hip hop producers since the 1980s. "Hard Times" alone has been sampled by dozens of artists, including Ice Cube ("The Birth", Death Certificate), A Tribe Called Quest ("Can I Kick It? (Spirit Mix)", People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm), Ghostface Killah ("Buck 50", Supreme Clientele), and others. John Legend and The Roots covered "Hard Times" for their 2010 album Wake Up!. Many people, including the Babysitters themselves, see The Baby Huey Story as a significant and important influence on hip hop music.

The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend is the only available release of Baby Huey. Several singles, including "Beg Me", "Monkey Man", "Messin' with the Kid" and "Just Being Careful" are not included.


Listen To Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLwqJFzB ... re=related


A Change Is Going To COme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh9v41hx ... re=related

Running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcUo2fau ... re=related

The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend

The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend is the only album of Baby Huey that has been released to date. It was put together and released 1971 after his death.

Baby Huey was in the midst of recording tracks for his debut album when he died as a result of a heart attack in 1970. Some time lapsed before his manager Marv Stuart aka Marv Heinman and Curtis Mayfield took what had been already been recorded, added some instrumental tracks that had been recorded previously and managed to gather up enough for the albums release. It is quite likely that some of the tracks feature Curtom Records session men and not the Babysitters as Mayfield wanted to sign Ramey and not the rest of the band.

The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend is the only available release of Baby Huey. Several singles, including "Beg Me", "Monkey Man", "Messin' with the Kid" and "Just Being Careful" are not included.



Side 1

1. Listen to Me (6:35)
2. Mama Get Yourself Together (6:10)
3. A Change Is Going to Come (9:23)

Side 2

1. Mighty, Mighty (2:45)
2. Hard Times (3:19)
3. California Dreamin' (4:43)
4. Running (3:36)
5. One Dragon Two Dragon (4:02)

Image


Big guy...big music!!



=)
Last edited by jamestkirk on Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music".

-Aldous Huxley
User avatar
jamestkirk
Senior Member
Posts: 5816
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:11 pm
Location: The Music Of My Mind

Post by jamestkirk »

Mighty Mighty Children, pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwYpjPYtMY

FANTASTIC!
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music".

-Aldous Huxley
User avatar
jamestkirk
Senior Member
Posts: 5816
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:11 pm
Location: The Music Of My Mind

Post by jamestkirk »

The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend 1970

Play...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozvmqGGRaas


There’s nearly a full minute of rally calls, shrill screams, throaty howls and blasting horns before Baby Huey insists, “Listen to me / Hear what I say.” When a possessed yawp escalates into the song main a moment later, you are indeed heeding his call. Because that’s what this man is–possessed. He’s more inviting than the consumed, bed-shackled soul in The Exorcist, but his possession remains just the same: bound within a form, he gyrates, spins, screams and spews, fighting the confines of his sound, stretching to its borders, blasting up against them and hurling back across to the other side.

Later on in “Listen To Me,” the curtain-raising track to his solitary, posthumous opus The Baby Huey Story: The Living Legend, he exclaims “Kinda funky!” “Kinda” is, to put it ever so commonly, an understatement.

The living legend, though, he wasn’t. His legend grew in stature when he died, at just 26 years old, a year before this record was released. Born James Raney–called Jimmy by friends–Baby Huey had what one might call a weight problem. Reports vary, but he weighed anywhere from 350 to in excess of 400 pounds. This was a choke-hold on life that, gripped with an added heroin and drinking problem, would squeeze the last breath from him in 1970. These are ancillary to the music at hand, pertinent only when postulating what Baby Huey might’ve been had he not died. But while he was living, he had the makings of a legend.

The record was curated by Curtis Mayfield, and includes seven of Mayfield’s songs. And this is a good starting point. Because to compare the two undoubtedly unfurls the wild spirit of Baby Huey’s music. Mayfield himself was the archangel of smooth, caressing funk, licking his way across your consciousness as a messenger of invite. The kind of music you open the door for just before it has a chance to knock, that partakes of your goods, drinks you clean and departs with your permission to return. Baby Huey, in contrast, is a fallen angel who sweats and bleeds the human soul, writhing to survive amidst humanly turmoil. This is all too apparent in the now classic cover of Mayfields’ “Hard Times.” Mayfield’s version patiently lingers across 50 seconds of quivering anticipation before he invites himself in with his words. But Baby Huey arrives much more immediately. The thumping bassline is more urgent, Huey coming just 12 seconds in. And if Mayfield’s voice is silk, then Huey’s is a slight tear in the fiber. The scratch in his throat is barely noticeable, a trace almost overlooked, but when he says he’s been sleeping on motel floors and drinking Thunderbird, you feel his hard times. Leery of his intent, you had to wait for the knock at the door. But now you’re wrapping your arms around the what portion of him you can, and insist that he rest his head.

You feel this earlier, when he embarks on Sam Cooke’s epic “A Change is Gonna Come.” He echoes his voice into being, the tone itself speaking the tragedy before you can pay attention to a single word. And when you do, you hear, “It’s been too hard livin’ / But I’m a afraid to die.” And you nearly weep for the man. Because, while Cooke has hope, you know that a change isn’t going to come for Baby Huey. You know that because you know that he knows this. And then his shriek takes over like a tortured nether-creature whose soul is slowly being ripped apart. Maybe this is prescient. Maybe he knew his lot was in. Maybe that’s why he drank, why he let the monkey on his back. Maybe it was too hard living and, too afraid to die, he tried to kill himself passively, letting his demons do the work for him.

Living Legend is not all desperate. In fact, it rarely is. It’s more that it’s resigned to fate. Because desperation would indicate the inability for triumphant voices. Resignation, though, means understanding in a way. Where finality is inevitable, one can balance the moments of difficulty with levity and, on a good day, muscle (see “Mighty, Mighty”). In fact, this trance of soul funk psychedelia can’t be accomplished without that dichotomy, without that fight in the soul. Possessed as that spirit may be, the demons and angels shall wrestle before the struggle is decided.

It can’t be said how much fight Jimmy had in physical life, but it seems very little. Maybe he exhausted the last of it in these songs. -- crosby
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music".

-Aldous Huxley
User avatar
jamestkirk
Senior Member
Posts: 5816
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:11 pm
Location: The Music Of My Mind

Post by jamestkirk »

OOP...until is reissued...
http://www.mediafire.com/?8qomt5fmsoj


Enjoy!

=)
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music".

-Aldous Huxley
User avatar
jamestkirk
Senior Member
Posts: 5816
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:11 pm
Location: The Music Of My Mind

Post by jamestkirk »

Why didn't we hear this music back in the day?! He died before the recording was finished and it never got released at the time!! TOO bad, dammit! But we have it now!!

Baby Huey and the Baby Sitters


Image

HARD TIMES...listen, marvel, and read on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMIzTh0Lafg


by Chris Kit, @ garagehangover.com


I'd like to focus on the early career of Baby Huey and the Baby Sitters - four songs released across five singles during 1964-1966, before Huey signed to Curtom and recorded the songs issued on his great posthumous LP.

Here are the influential "Monkey Man" and a great cover of Junior Wells' "Messin with the Kid", along with a fantastic soul number, "Just Being Careful". His version of "Beg Me" isn't bad, but it's probably the weakest number on these early 45s.

Baby Huey was born James Ramey in Richmond, Indiana and formed the Babysitters in Chicago in 1963 with guitarist Johnny Ross and organ player/trumpeter Melvin "Deacon" Jones. Reno Smith was the drummer at some point (though I'm not sure if he's on these singles). "Monkey Man" and "Just Being Careful" were both written by John R. Ross.

Other members of the Babysitters included Plato Jones on percussion, Danny O'Neil on guitar, Rick Marcotte on trumpet, and Byron Watkins on tenor sax.

Baby Huey died in a South Side motel room on October 28, 1970, after a show in Madison, Wisconsin.

Early discography

The history of his early releases is somewhat confusing because of the repetition of songs. Below might be a complete discography from this time period:

Shann 73924 - Just Being Careful / Messin' With the Kid
USA 801 - Just Being Careful / Messin' With the Kid
Satellite 2013 - Monkey Man / Messin' With the Kid
St. Lawrence 1002 - Monkey Man / Messin' With the Kid (white label)
St. Lawrence 1002 - Monkey Man / Beg Me (blue and white labels)

I'm not sure if a "Monkey Man"/"Beg Me" exists on Satellite.

The St. Lawrence white label of Monkey Man was bootlegged in 2011.

Image


In 2005 an acetate came up on auction that was supposed to be an unreleased instrumental by Baby Huey and the Baby Sitters. I had a sound clip up here for over a year before Mark Namath identified it as "Zoobie" by the Noisemakers. The acetate was probably a DJ or collector's cut misidentified as Baby Huey - there's no connection whatever between the groups.

Thanks to Dean Milano for scan of the photo of Baby Huey and the Baby Sitters at the top of the page. Check out Dean's new book The Chicago Music Scene: 1960s and 1970s.

Transfer of "Beg Me" thanks to a fan of the group.

Image


Gigs and announcements in the press

According to Billboard, promoter Barry Fey's first production was a Baby Huey show in Rockford, IL. Eventually Huey and the Babysitters were managed by Marv Stuart's State and Madison Management (listed as Marv Heiman on wikipedia).

Billboard and Jet magazines kept tabs on some of Baby Huey's doings during the late '60s. I'm sure Chicago newspapers from the time have more listings.

Image


1966
various months - Thumbs Up, Chicago
February 25 - Harmony Hall, Chicago
October - at Trude Hellers, also an announcement that Capitol Booking has signed the group

1967
January- at Ungano's club in New York
November 10-21 - at the Cheetah in Chicago
December 31 - at the Cheetah in Chicago with the Exception

1968
March 16 - at the Jaguar with the Shadows of Knight
November 23 - at Mother Duck with the Box Tops

1969
April - at Barnaby's Balcony in Chicago and at the Cheetah in Chicago beginning April 21
May - Billboard reports the group scheduled to record their first LP for Curtom in New York.
May 21 - appearance on the Merv Griffin Show, in New York.
August 14 - Jet announces that Baby Huey was "ailing a bit" in Chicago.

1970
April 24 - Sound Storm Festival, Poynette, Wisconsin (There are a number of excellent photos at (Wisconsin Historical Society - search for Baby Huey or Sound Storm under photos and images.)
August 1 - Lou's Quarry, Appleton, WI

Billboard also mentions that after Huey's death, the Babysitters changed their name to Boink for at least one live show. However Robert Baker, in a comment below states "The Babysitters never changed their name to Boink. This was another concurrent group that had at least two ex-Babysitters in the group."


http://www.garagehangover.com/?q=babyhuey


Image
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music".

-Aldous Huxley
Post Reply