Hello again Vince,
I´d like to hear how was your relationship with the other members of "The Doors extended family" as Ray wrote in his book: you, Kathy, Frank, Tony Funches, Leon Barnard and I´m curious about Paul Rothchild too. Especially after 1972, which ones you kept contact with...
Did you know Leon and Tony had dropped by the Lizard Lounge? Tony very briefly just said hi but Leon was with us for quite a few months, while he was promoting his book about Jim.
Thanks!
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It's even funnier how tiresome the Doors board can become with the same five topics repeated ad nauseum...
Leon's posts were great. They were colorful, thought-provoking, and funny as hell. I think he just finally got bored of the What Would Jim Do topics and people criticizing him over the dumbest shit imaginable, so he moved on.
Leon's posts were great. They were colorful, thought-provoking, and funny as hell. I think he just finally got bored of the What Would Jim Do topics and people criticizing him over the dumbest shit imaginable, so he moved on.
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Extended relations
Kathy - Our secretary. If ever there was a person deserving of sainthood it was Kathy. She was our "Den Mother. Though officially the secretary for Bill, she would mail letters and do other little things for us that made life so much the better. She was ever cheerful, encouraging, witty, and always helpful
I know she was Franks Girl friend when she came to us. I don't know what happened to her when the office was closed. She was married to Frank for a while and for whatever reason, they parted. To me, Kathy was one of the mainstays of our group of staffers and there is no word that can be said to take from her wonderful spirit of caring, kindness, consideration and support when we had dark moments. She remains in my memory as one of the really fine pople who I have met and worked with.
Leon - He was funny and silly and sometimes serious. He didn't take life seriously. He worked "Upstairs" and I, by design was banished to "Downstairs". But we met for lunch and sometimes Dinner and occasional movie and just after hours talking. Watching the Movies as Leon put it, looking out the upstairs picture window at the flow of traffic and people along Santa Monica Boulevard as the velvet cape of darkness slid over the western reaches of Hollywood. Leon, like Kathy and I were hit with shock and sadness when Jim died. We knew there was to be a parting of the ways but like an amicable divorce (if there is such a thing) we though the parties involved would remain friends once the strain of behavior and similar stressful influences had passed.
Tony Funches. He was a so called "Bodyguard". I did not see him much and he was with us on tour. I am sure, in his capacity, he had the opportunity to talk to Jim and learn somehwat more of him than most would. He was pleasant and polite to me even to the point of giving a helping hand on occasion. One of these, for which I should always remember him with gratitude was the openig of the November 1968 tour, I had the flue and could hardly stand much less move the equiment. He pitched in and gave me a hand with the loading at the airport. That was a most gracious gesture.
I can't say I knew Tony and until someone recently reminded me of his capacity I had allowed him to slip from my mind.
Paul Rothschild - He a very important man in the careers of the Doors. No need to say more, his work speaks for itself except that, to insure his reputation, he beat one recording stint to death with retakes in the persuit of perfection. The result though perfect was very dry and tired.
Personally I had the greatest respect for Paul and I think the feeling was mutual. He certainly backed me when the Managerial decision was made - advising the Doors that, no matter what my reaction to their choice was, make sure I didn't quit. Which I did not do but that was loyalty, not a result of hollow titles and substantial pay increase.
Paul was a quiet guy, he knew what he wanted from the boys and had a way of getting it out of them. That alone is a great show of personality. I liked Paul. He was always polite and respectful toward me. When he wanted or needed something done along the instrument or amp line his manner of asking was such that fulfillment of the request was more than a pleasure regardless of time or effort involved.
After January 1972, when Bill fired me, I had contact only with Paul and that was during the Filming of the Doors Movie. It was during this period that Paul was told that he had cancer in his throat. No matter the best efforts of medical remedies, it was discovered too late and Paul succummed. Perhaps it is better that he did not experience the failure of the film and demonstrated in economic losses and lack of a more astute public's support. Paul wanted his efforts with the music of that film to open the doors to working in the Movie Industry. I am sure, had he lived, tht amotion would have been realized.
It was with deep sadness that I learned of his death. He was a nice guy to me, on the road, in the studio and on occasion. The terms might be mutual professional respect and for my part that extended to a respect and good relations on a personal level as well.
Kathy, Tony and Leon have all vanished, except I saw Leon's site and wrote a little note which he has not answered.
So there it is.
As important as these people are to the Doors, there are other unsung heroes - The Band Boys. and the members of the Organ Factory that I lost touch with. They too contributed to the strange story of the Doors and the people who helped them with their careers.
I know she was Franks Girl friend when she came to us. I don't know what happened to her when the office was closed. She was married to Frank for a while and for whatever reason, they parted. To me, Kathy was one of the mainstays of our group of staffers and there is no word that can be said to take from her wonderful spirit of caring, kindness, consideration and support when we had dark moments. She remains in my memory as one of the really fine pople who I have met and worked with.
Leon - He was funny and silly and sometimes serious. He didn't take life seriously. He worked "Upstairs" and I, by design was banished to "Downstairs". But we met for lunch and sometimes Dinner and occasional movie and just after hours talking. Watching the Movies as Leon put it, looking out the upstairs picture window at the flow of traffic and people along Santa Monica Boulevard as the velvet cape of darkness slid over the western reaches of Hollywood. Leon, like Kathy and I were hit with shock and sadness when Jim died. We knew there was to be a parting of the ways but like an amicable divorce (if there is such a thing) we though the parties involved would remain friends once the strain of behavior and similar stressful influences had passed.
Tony Funches. He was a so called "Bodyguard". I did not see him much and he was with us on tour. I am sure, in his capacity, he had the opportunity to talk to Jim and learn somehwat more of him than most would. He was pleasant and polite to me even to the point of giving a helping hand on occasion. One of these, for which I should always remember him with gratitude was the openig of the November 1968 tour, I had the flue and could hardly stand much less move the equiment. He pitched in and gave me a hand with the loading at the airport. That was a most gracious gesture.
I can't say I knew Tony and until someone recently reminded me of his capacity I had allowed him to slip from my mind.
Paul Rothschild - He a very important man in the careers of the Doors. No need to say more, his work speaks for itself except that, to insure his reputation, he beat one recording stint to death with retakes in the persuit of perfection. The result though perfect was very dry and tired.
Personally I had the greatest respect for Paul and I think the feeling was mutual. He certainly backed me when the Managerial decision was made - advising the Doors that, no matter what my reaction to their choice was, make sure I didn't quit. Which I did not do but that was loyalty, not a result of hollow titles and substantial pay increase.
Paul was a quiet guy, he knew what he wanted from the boys and had a way of getting it out of them. That alone is a great show of personality. I liked Paul. He was always polite and respectful toward me. When he wanted or needed something done along the instrument or amp line his manner of asking was such that fulfillment of the request was more than a pleasure regardless of time or effort involved.
After January 1972, when Bill fired me, I had contact only with Paul and that was during the Filming of the Doors Movie. It was during this period that Paul was told that he had cancer in his throat. No matter the best efforts of medical remedies, it was discovered too late and Paul succummed. Perhaps it is better that he did not experience the failure of the film and demonstrated in economic losses and lack of a more astute public's support. Paul wanted his efforts with the music of that film to open the doors to working in the Movie Industry. I am sure, had he lived, tht amotion would have been realized.
It was with deep sadness that I learned of his death. He was a nice guy to me, on the road, in the studio and on occasion. The terms might be mutual professional respect and for my part that extended to a respect and good relations on a personal level as well.
Kathy, Tony and Leon have all vanished, except I saw Leon's site and wrote a little note which he has not answered.
So there it is.
As important as these people are to the Doors, there are other unsung heroes - The Band Boys. and the members of the Organ Factory that I lost touch with. They too contributed to the strange story of the Doors and the people who helped them with their careers.
Vince
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Vince, what are your views and perceptions on this?-
http://www.doors.com/magazine/Tony_Funches.html
Did you and Danny Sugerman get on at all?.
http://www.doors.com/magazine/Tony_Funches.html
Did you and Danny Sugerman get on at all?.
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Oh yeah, his poetry was amateurish and awful. And his "Morrison moments" were mostly pathetic. He couldn't go more than five or ten seconds without saying "shit" or "fuck" or "I fucked up", then marinating his listener with self hatred and insecurity. Truly painful, it was.sunday trucker wrote:Dude, did you read ANY of his posts?Joriki wrote:Funny bout that. How Leon popped by to promote his book, then disappeared. IT speaks for itself doesn't it?
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Well, your reply speaks for itself too.Joriki wrote:Oh yeah, his poetry was amateurish and awful. And his "Morrison moments" were mostly pathetic. He couldn't go more than five or ten seconds without saying "shit" or "damn" or "I fucked up", then marinating his listener with self hatred and insecurity. Truly painful, it was.sunday trucker wrote:Dude, did you read ANY of his posts?Joriki wrote:Funny bout that. How Leon popped by to promote his book, then disappeared. IT speaks for itself doesn't it?
Vince, thanks once again. It´s sad you all have went to diferent paths and couldn´t stay in touch. I always hear good things about Kathy, she must be a lovely person.
Leon is exactly the way you describe him. Very laid back, good vibes.
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